The Sit Down Talk with Kier & Noémie Gaines

What Would You Say If I Asked You Today?

Kier & Noémie Gaines

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Sometimes the best conversations don’t start with a plan—they start with a question.

In this episode, we play a game to test how well we really know each other. But what starts as a lighthearted back-and-forth turns into something deeper. We ended up talking about how much we’ve changed, what we still love, and the quiet ways we’ve grown up beside one another.

We reflected on who we thought we’d be in marriage, who we’ve actually become, and the things we still don’t say out loud until someone asks directly. There’s laughter, vulnerability, and a whole lot of “Wait… you still feel that way?”

This isn’t a deep dive into conflict—it’s a check-in from the middle. The part where love still lives, but assumptions need adjusting. The part where you realize you’re not loving a memory, you’re loving a person who keeps evolving.

If you’ve ever looked at your partner and wondered, “Do I still really know you?”—this one’s for you.

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Getting Comfortable and Silly Introductions

Speaker 1

Welcome back to another episode of the sit down talk podcast. My name is Kier and. I'm no, amy. I'm out and we go ahead, go ahead. Why you gotta do that? Nah, because I want this to be the Kier and Kier podcast.

Speaker 2

I got some stuff to say, Okay, it can be oh okay, it can be. Didn't it start being Kier and them? Everybody was mad. What about her? What about her and the family? Nah man, it's. It's not just about you, kira.

Speaker 1

I don't even like talking about myself enough for this to be the Kira and Kira podcast.

Speaker 2

This used to be the Kira and them podcast.

Speaker 1

I was the them the whole family was the them it was only me and E at the time, yeah y'all were the whole family go ahead.

Speaker 2

You already intro'd myself, hi guys, you know who I am now already. Are we gonna hug? What are we gonna hug? What are we gonna do? Cause this can be the no Amy podcast. Go ahead, I don't want to Go ahead, sis. I don't want to Go ahead. I don't want to.

Speaker 1

Where were we God?

Speaker 2

God Damn it.

Speaker 1

Me and my big mouth. Alright, let's do this again. Welcome back to another episode Of the Sit Down Talk Podcast. My name is Kier and I'm Noah. Alright, no, I'm me and my big mouth. All right, let's do this again. Welcome back to another episode of the sit down talk podcast. My name is Keir and I'm Noah. All right, no, I'm not gonna. I love you. No, all right, do you, do you? Do I, do you, do I do I? All right, come on talk to yourself yes, all right, welcome.

Speaker 1

Welcome back to another episode of the sit down talk podcast. My name is kia and I'm his wife hey y'all, what's up? Wait. I'm like, hey, aren't you noemi's husband? I'm like, yeah, I'm like damn hi. Oh, come on, man, let's get it together Last time, all right. Welcome to another episode of the Sit Down Talk podcast. My name is Kier. And I'm Noemi and we welcome you, clap it up for you for being here.

Speaker 2

Always hit the camera during the clap.

Speaker 1

If this is your first time here, welcome, welcome, welcome. Go, make sure that you binge all of our old episodes. Catch you up to date so you know what we're talking about and how we got here. But if you are a group of people that we affectionately refer to as the repeat offenders, can I say something about the repeat offenders?

Speaker 2

real quick, go ahead. Y'all been rocking with us for almost eight years.

Speaker 1

It's been a long time like what it's been.

Speaker 2

I think that deserves seven years, seven years, because we started. We started in 2018.

Speaker 1

Seven years yeah, when he was a little baby. That's wild. And you've been here the whole time. Wait a second. What month are we in?

Speaker 2

Seven year anniversary, I think is in July.

Speaker 1

This may be July when we're filming this. We don't know.

Speaker 2

Well, when we're yeah, yeah, but hug time in, bring it in.

Speaker 1

Oh yes, you smell like fresh laundry, but stale bread. That's an interesting mix. I like that on you. Today we are see this is the thing. So look at you. Know what? We'll be doing today, babe you, can you intro for us?

Speaker 2

today we have. What is it? When you uh, we got it. We're trying to get our sillies out. What do we say tell the kids, oh, I don't even know, sydney, be like, I gotta get my sillies out. Mommy, I gotta get my sill, or shake my sillies out or something we're just not in a serious mood today this is.

Speaker 1

This is our least serious episode that we've done in a long time. What?

Speaker 2

the set oh, those are the spoons yeah you know, it ain't the sit down talk if we don't go off on a tangent man, y'all know how it is if you're listening on audio. We just found a box of silverware there are trolls hiding in our house that steal our utensils still in the utensils.

Speaker 1

Man, it's getting old, they're all gone.

Speaker 2

It's getting old, it's starting to piss me off. And they still suck. Sometimes they still learn everything, but still alone. Dad, listen, come on.

Speaker 1

Got the wrong priority so today we are uh, this is gonna be a fun episode, yeah we're just.

Speaker 2

We've been deep for a while and you know, see, we couldn't even make it through a real conversation, so we're just trying to do something fun still, relationship and, you know, connection focused. But y'all like we need a break.

Speaker 1

That was a good time.

Relationship Content vs. Reality

Speaker 2

So, like I said before, we are not trying to be deep all damn time. We already doing the work. We need to shake it up and spice it up a little bit, and I don't even know how spicy this is going to be.

Speaker 1

I hope it's not dry. No, I spice it up a little bit and I don't even know how spicy this is gonna be. I hope it's not dry. No, I ain't even speaking that into existence, but the thing is like, even with I notice, even with content, like relationship content, people there's a tendency to over emphasize on the depth and connectivity of relationships but every moment in your relationship is not an opportunity for connection like some.

Speaker 2

Some spots just exist, they just are as you can see, or maybe you can see from our moods, that things have been very deep. Things have just been heavy for reasons that I don't think it needs to be heavy for. And one of the things Kira was just talking about how, like, when we look at relationship content and we look at, you know, just couples content in general, like it's always like the Hmm yes, and like cool, but like okay, you know, like okay, but what does it actually look like on a day to day? And how do you keep that connection, the connection? I'm going to just be honest with you. If you, if you watch our sit down, talk and you try to have your, have your partner with you unprompted and sit down and try to have an impromptu deep conversation with them, it's not going to work. It's not going to work. I don't want to have no impromptu deep conversation with you.

Speaker 1

A conversation that you watched the whole podcast episode and you had a chance to think about what you think and think about how you feel and think about what you want to say, and then the expectation is for this person to just jump into that mode of thinking without any of that inspiration or motivation.

Speaker 2

Please don't bulldoze me with feelings when I'm not prepared. Please don't bulldoze me with feelings.

Speaker 1

Please don't bulldoze me with expectations of how the thing is supposed to go. That those expectations only satisfy the thing that you want.

Speaker 2

And an immediate. You want immediate satisfaction, Like yo, like give me a second yo, I just woke up, bro.

Speaker 1

It's so much content talking about how everybody else is the person who's the problem.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we're never this far apart, because then they're gonna be like, look at them, they don't want to talk about relationships no more, because they hate each other.

Speaker 1

Most people don't understand themselves or their partner well enough to evaluate me, so I don't. You can say what you want, I don't care.

Speaker 2

Can I just deviate just one second? It was something, it was one of the videos that was on there and somebody created this entire narrative about us and be like, oh, his wife is black, she's probably cheating on him. She doesn't know how to appreciate a good man.

Speaker 1

Or it's like where's the wife?

Speaker 2

I see the husband with the kids all the time and where's the wife, right there on the couch looking at them? Like he got it yeah, he got it you gotta learn how to chill but but it's just like it's not common, but it'll just be those comments every now and then. I'm just like this is probably your first interaction with this like the narrative that you created is basically based on some type of projection. It's like where do you get that from? Like us.

Speaker 1

Yeah, social media is where people go to project and also to mistake attention for connection.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Yeah, it happens all the time I mean some posts and you know, some little pockets of the Internet are really helpful and really joyful and really positive. But I think it's just like those couple of toxic you know comments. It's like you have a beautiful pot of soup or whatever. Like just a little bit of salt can throw that all the way off.

Speaker 1

That's, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 2

Anyway, enough of these analogies, we're going to go into some rapid fire. Yes, ok, rapid fire. Yes, okay, rapid fire rapid fire questions. We got 20. All right, we got 20 and you know, if you know us, we begin through like three because we'd be having a dissertation about every single one of them.

Speaker 1

So let's keep, let's create a safe word if it's going on too long can we say pineapples?

Speaker 2

no, let's just say wrap it up okay, can I add some razzle dazzle to the wrap it?

Speaker 1

up. Yeah, wrap it up. Like just wrap it up, bro, all right all right now either wrap it up or land a plane. Land a plane, land a plane.

Rapid Fire: Who's Most Likely To

Speaker 2

So I separated into categories that I thought would be interesting. That you know, I kind of related to kind of the stuff that we talk about, but you know we just wanted to make it a little bit more fun. So category one is who's most likely to the rules of this category is you can, if you got something to say in addition to your answer.

Speaker 1

Make it quick, make it quick Got it All right.

Speaker 2

I'm on it All right. And we're both going to answer it for four. Oh yeah, for this round. Oh okay, we're going to do a countdown. One, two three.

Speaker 1

You're going to say, yeah, yeah, I like that, let's do that. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2

Who's most likely to plan a last minute trip? Three, two, one. No way you last minute what trips do I plan? I'm. I'm thinking about the last minute part, you talking about the trip yeah, I'm gonna go on a trip, but you're gonna do something last minute oh, one thousand percent, one, two, three care okay, okay. And then if it's a trip, one, two, three, no, amy, because I got, I got three trips. I'm just waiting for him to be in a good enough mood to be like babe, I already priced it out.

Speaker 2

This is the day we could enough to talk budget we don't, we almost did though yeah, I gotta pick and choose my times because if I, if I go on the wrong time, you're gonna be like, no, we ain't going on no vacations this year to people who don't know us like that, I never say no, we ain't going on no vacations this year.

Speaker 1

I'm not a dictator I said, looking at the budget, I think it would be best if we forego vacations that's not.

Speaker 2

That's not what you said, bruh. That's not what you said. You was like yo we not going on no vacations this year.

Speaker 1

I prefaced that entire conversation with. This is my proposal for the financial budget.

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 1

You can count on it, wrap it up. Wrap it up, exactly, all right, uh-huh.

Speaker 2

I ain't trying to spin us to homelessness. Man Number two, who's most likely to fall asleep during a movie? One, two, three, kier 1,000. Fall asleep Yo.

Speaker 1

I fall asleep while falling asleep.

Speaker 2

Listen, remember how you were like damn, like I've been so tired since I had these kids. I was talking to Donnie and Donnie was like that a**hole been tired forever. He always was. And I remember we got into you and me, got into a huge argument. She was like I'm tired because of the kids, because of this. I'm like babe, ever since I've known you, you will fall asleep anywhere, sitting up with your eyes open, even like you can fall asleep anywhere at any time.

Speaker 1

You just a tired boy. I'm a yellow fin tuna man.

Speaker 2

I got gotta keep moving on. I ain't gonna survive. He sit down, he out. It's a wrap, I'm done out, and it's so hard to wake him up. Okay, this one's interesting. Okay three. Oh, I'm sorry. Who's most likely to ghost everyone for a day?

Speaker 1

of peace. Three, two, one, both of us no, you, you like hanging with the girls, like you will go.

Speaker 2

You will go with the forever bays and go on a cabin trip and go see usher, and then I'll come back and not speak to anybody for a week.

Speaker 1

Yeah, see my. Not speak to anybody for a week is preemptive got you. Yeah, accurate, yeah, you don't even like people for real I don't like people for real, I just people be too chatty, Like why does everybody always want to talk? And then they don't even be interested. They just be people wanting to hear their thoughts out loud.

Speaker 2

But you know what it is. I think people have always been chatty, because you used to be mad chatty until you became a content creator.

Speaker 1

A content creator and father, and father I mean.

Speaker 2

And post-pandemic and father and post pandemic. Yeah, your biology just completely changed after you got married. You got married, then covid hit because you were still chatty when we had said in the beginning, I mean I said we had emory in the beginning but she was only two when covid hit.

Speaker 1

So I can't really tell what your personality the number of people talking to me just exponentially grew, and I just have no desire to talk to people outside he talked out man yeah unless it's a meaningful conversation.

Speaker 2

Sports politics I can talk about, but don't, don't give me no business proposal in the middle of a dinner.

Speaker 1

What are you doing? Which happens I have four on my phone.

Speaker 2

Can you mentor my, my son or my husband?

Speaker 1

Mentor. My husband is crazy, but it's not untrue.

Speaker 2

Okay, let's wrap that up, Be nice with this one, okay.

Speaker 1

All right.

Speaker 2

Who's most likely to start a deep conversation during errands? Three, two, one. No way me. I love it yo. When I get in a groove I'll be mad at myself in my head.

Speaker 1

I'll be like no way me, shut up, I just can't I used to have my uh playstation in our room, cause we got like a little I call it a bedroom lobby. We got like a little place for a couch.

Speaker 2

And a.

Speaker 1

TV and I used to have the Playstation in the room. It's now moved to my office Because Noemi will come in and she'll start talking and, like she don't get the clues that you don't want to talk.

Speaker 2

It's not that I don't get the clues, I just don't care.

Speaker 1

You're right, you don't want to talk. So it's not that I don't get the clues, I just don't care. You're right, you don't care, and it's just. It's one thought leads to another, you know, fireworks go. That's, that's how our thoughts go, and it's like yo, that's what's up and I say everything out loud but I'm chilling, it's quiet listen, I don't got nobody else to talk to but these children. You gotta find somebody else. Not cooking me. Man You're cooking me, man You're cooking me.

Speaker 2

I be chilling, he be right there, it be quiet, it's quiet, my friends got kids, man, they don't got time to talk to me at 9 o'clock at night. You, the only one. It's either you or my mom and I'd rather talk to you sometimes.

Speaker 1

I'd not even rather talk to you, I'd rather just talk to myself and you'd be there to listen. But that you know what that's. That's the one thing that makes it all. She is not a person like you need to pay close attention to every single word I'm saying. If it were that way, I don't think our relationship will work I just want to hear myself yeah, she just want to hear herself sometimes like don't get it wrong, most of the time like all right, what's up?

Speaker 1

you know, sometimes I'm super engaged, sometimes I'm not, but sometimes I just be wanting to chill and she comes in my space with mad words and noise I'm like dog having a quiet moment I just be waiting for, like that, one response.

Speaker 2

Or like when he smiles and he's not talking, talking about work, and I go like, oh, this is my chance.

Speaker 1

Let me just dump and say, I mean not emotionally, dumb, but let me just say all my words freudian slip, nah, dump is right'm dumping, but not like emotionally dumping, like baby.

Speaker 2

you got to fix this, this and this.

Speaker 1

It's just like all the words that I wanted to say.

Speaker 2

I'm with my children in that car for so long and I can't talk to them about nothing. Their conversations be dry. I don't want to talk about what they want to talk about, oh my.

Speaker 1

God.

Speaker 2

One thing one one thing.

Speaker 1

Your oldest is just like me. You ask her baby, what color is the sky? Well, it's a backstory and there's a reason to the backstory. You have to get greater context, so you got to hear the adjacent story. And then there's a list. There's always a list. Well, let me think there's boom, boom, boom, boom. That number one is because of this.

Love and Habits in Daily Life

Speaker 2

Oh my god we're the same streamline, that thing. We got through the first category that's a sit down. Talk first we've never gotten through anything we did all right all right, we still got three more to go. All right. Number two love and habits. Okay, here we're gonna get into like what we do every day and what it's like being in a real relationship with us.

Speaker 1

Okay, it's like being on a game show it is like pop the balloon without the stress.

Speaker 2

We're both gonna answer each question, okay, disparaging comments on your character.

Speaker 1

Go ahead number one.

Speaker 2

What's one small thing that I do every day that makes you feel loved?

Speaker 1

uh, you walk by me and you just give me like a little touch.

Speaker 2

I like that really. Yeah, I like that yeah yeah, okay, mine is kind of similar to yours. I love it when you, I love it when you touch me without smacking my ass. I like it when you smack it too. But it's like when you walk past me and I'm like, oh, I'm always like ready for the smack, and you just, you know, or you like kiss me real quick, it's like a real gentle touch. I really like that.

Speaker 1

Okay, put that in there, yeah.

Speaker 2

Put that in the inventory.

Speaker 1

Not that I mind you smacking my ass, but it's always like a surprise.

Speaker 2

Oh, that's not going anywhere, I know, I know.

Speaker 1

You know, you got to switch it up a little bit.

Speaker 2

I know and I like it when you say my booty fat. Yeah, Nobody Listen. I don't get compliments. I'm a married woman.

Speaker 1

Everybody knows my husband Remember when Aisha Curry said that and they tried to kill her.

Speaker 2

I didn't disagree with her she wasn't wrong. Listen, when you married and your husband is known like. People are mad, respectful and please continue to be mad respectful. But like, sometimes you just want to be reminded that like, oh, you look bad as shit, like, okay.

Speaker 1

I understand that it's the same thing being a married dude, especially when you're married and you're visible. I guess people are respectful, but you still get comments about how much you're like attractive. You are not really, babe, no, and this. Women get weird because they don't want to be the one to get called out for being obviously like fraternizing with a man. So they backdoor a lot of compliments.

Speaker 2

It's very strange well, you find it thank you, I appreciate it, especially right now. I don't know, switch your arms out and the brand, I don't know, it's just the dark skin. He's totally my type y'all. Okay, number two, okay, number two. What is um my most random or hilarious habit at home?

Speaker 1

I'm scared it's if you're hearing a story and someone, you get really engaged. If you hear a story where someone did something stupid and it's like, yeah, man, he sold all of his. Nah, it's like I'll tell a story about someone and he gave away all his money, not all his money her response it's just a response yeah, and he broke up all his money, not all his money. Her her response is just a response yeah, and he broke up with his girl over nothing, over nothing. She gets really engaged. And she'll repeat the last thing you said and it's not fake. She all the way in. Yeah, man, he didn't talk to his mom for four months after this four months. And it's the same inflection. That is hilarious.

Speaker 2

I like that, what I do it's not really a habit, it's like a response. You know how like you hate the sound of people chewing so much. You are the loudest chewer I've ever heard in my life and I'm like it blows me.

Speaker 1

I gotta hear myself chewing through my own ears. Man, sometimes I stop. I stop eating because it pisses me off.

Speaker 2

But it's just crazy. We would all be eating, like all four of us are eating, and he'll turn around and look at us like we're goats in a field, and I'm like you one of the goats I know I'm the biggest goat. You're the biggest goat there.

Speaker 1

I know bad I. I just think it's funny because it really like irks his spirit and I'm just like the kids be eating chips in the back and I just I'm like everybody throw these chips out the window but the bag is full, I don't care, I don't care. Now I'm the biggest culprit.

Speaker 2

I hate that about myself number three what's one thing you've learned to stop taking personally about me tone when you're really short, yeah, yeah, when you're totally short I really don't mean to be rude. I just I'm very big on like getting to the point. I hate, you know, like people that like these long drawn out stories like what are we talking about and why? What's the purpose of this?

Speaker 1

that is the equivalent of me being the loudest chewer. But hating chewing, that's the the same thing.

Speaker 2

But this is the thing, I don't care. If you listen to me, like you're actually trying to tell me, like get a point across to me and I'm like I'm lost, like after the first 10 seconds I don't know what's happening.

Speaker 1

Yeah, if you take too long to get to the point, noemi will be like so what are you trying to say exactly? And that that would. I used to find that so rude, but I don't think it's rude anymore, because when she take too long to get to the point, I always what's the what's the point? And I can say it that way to her and she don't feel no way because I'm like oh, I'm going off on a tangent love. That love that it works.

Speaker 2

It works both ways yeah, I'm better, I feel like with other people. I don't think anybody would think I was like that, like if they were to actually have a conversation with me, but just know, 20 seconds into the conversation I don't know what you're talking about anymore. I forgot your name it's like I'm fully engaged in the like the flow of the flow of the conversation, but is it being committed to memory? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1

I completely forgot who you were I think this is a great segue into a conversation, like the whole um the way men and women ask questions to their friends. I got a theory about that, like how they say men aren't invested in a conversation. I got a theory on what part of the conversation in the follow-up questions that some women are invested.

Speaker 2

That would be a great conversation, because I don't think men talk about anything we do.

Speaker 1

We just talk about things very differently from you all.

Speaker 2

But but y'all don't know each other's lives for real.

Speaker 1

No, and sometimes women are too invested in each other.

Then vs. Now: How We've Changed

Speaker 2

That is true okay, this one is kind of like the last question in the uh, uh, last category, but it basically just says who always wants to talk it out, who always wants to talk when the other one is tapped out. I think majority of the time it's me, I mean, it's you, you're. I mean I want to talk when you're tapped out. But I think that sometimes, like you only do it when it's about business, like when you're like refreshed, that's when you want to talk logistics with me. But if you're refreshed, it's usually because I'm doing double duty and I don't give a damn, don't talk to me about nothing. You be like babe, let's talk about mm-mm.

Speaker 1

I don't want to. That's crazy. It's such a seesaw. The only time I'm refreshed is when you do double. The only time you refresh is when I do double. We can't go on break at the same time.

Speaker 2

I'd be loving to see you happy, but it's just like I can't.

Speaker 1

I understand. I'm never going to be mad at you for that, because I understand.

Speaker 2

But I'm never mad at you for doing it. Can we talk about it later?

Speaker 1

that's usually what I say I mean, let's just talk about it later, and I don't never mind that show all right, we made it through category two, okay.

Speaker 2

Okay, let's move on. Let's move on, we ready, yeah, so category three is then versus now. So we're gonna compare. You know how much I like to take it back. We're gonna compare how we were in the beginning of our relationship and where we are now. Okay, but it's cool.

Speaker 2

It's cool, the questions are cool, okay she's so excited I am, I like it I feel like the last time we did a fun video, my mood was just like this. It was years ago, it was an old house, it's been a long time, and I was just like the corner of my corner says oh yeah, where we going, yeah, I love that episode. We're going to tag it here that's when you had the straight hair. Yeah yeah, I love that episode. Oh yeah, and you did the meme.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Describe my perfect day.

Speaker 1

Okay, hey, baby, I'm taking Boobie to my aunt's house. She'll be taken care of for the rest of the day, okay. While I'm gone. I want you to hop in the shower and get your makeup done and get ready. We Uber into the city and we have a very nice like ooh, where we going.

Speaker 2

Okay, all right. Number one what did you think you needed in a partner back then?

Speaker 1

but now know better oh man, you go first, I'm not sure because I didn't think I needed a partner at all, it's just no, please go with that go yeah, I didn't think I needed any. He sure didn't anybody for anything, he sure didn't?

Speaker 2

we used to get into arguments like when we first started doing a sit down talk video because I'm like you, look like you don't even want to be married and be in a relationship, like every time you we get on a car and be like I don't even want this and now, look, I went out the other day and it was just a whole bunch of single women.

Speaker 1

I was like, oh god, let me go home. They just, they, just yapping. I'm like what are you talking about? I have no interest in anything you're saying. Let me go home to my wife.

Speaker 2

He thought this was just you know like, well it makes. I remember you said well, it makes sense, so let's do it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I feel differently now.

Speaker 2

How do you feel now?

Speaker 1

I love it. I love it. I love being in a relationship. I love being together. I don't think the big moments would be as meaningful if they were just me by myself. Yeah, it means so much more to have y'all with me. Yeah, pictures and when we having a good day out?

Speaker 2

Yeah, no tantrums and all of that yeah.

Speaker 1

Or if me and you get the nanny and we slide off and we just have a random good night. Nothing like it. Man, yeah, I love doing life with you, boo. Yeah, me too. I wouldn't change, I wouldn't trade it for the world. Yeah, I got a lot of. I don't have a lot of regrets in life, but getting like proposing to you and getting married I've never, even in our worst moments.

Speaker 1

I've never regretted it. Once, yeah, and I used to think married men were born suckers, born toothless I'm pretty sure we have the footage yeah yeah, babe, whatever you want. Honey, honey, do you remember that day? Well, oh my god, oh uh. I hope I'm not that now I might be.

Speaker 2

If I am, don't say it just let me live in delusion because I can't okay, we don't keep that.

Speaker 2

No comment, keep that. So what was the question? Oh yeah, what did I? What did I think back then? Um, and what do I know now? Know better?

Speaker 2

Um, back then I thought I wanted like an alpha male, like stereotypically like alpha male, like somebody who makes all the decisions, and you know, a man that's confident. You know, like stereotypes, whatever. And one I realized that I'm not going to say that person doesn't exist, I'm not going to say that person doesn't exist, but I will say that, like that personality or that stereotypical personality doesn't work as well with my personality. I think, like I do desire more partnership.

Speaker 2

Like remember how I don't know if you ever heard this saying but like the man is the head of the household and the wife I mean the woman is the neck that controls where the head goes. That's what I think I want, more than just like soft life. I want a man that feels comfortable in making all the decisions, like I love the fact that you ask for my input but you can still make decisions with my input in mind. Like it's not like even like financial decisions, family decisions. Like when we first met, I thought I wanted you to be way more of an alpha as far as like family decisions yeah, I think you were great single, but relationship wise.

Speaker 1

I think you gotta the, because, remember, this is a mixed audience and when you say you wanted an alpha male, you gotta be, you gotta be conscious of what all that means. So when you say alpha, what do you mean?

Speaker 2

I mean I like man who feels confident and comfortable making all the decisions for him, his family, his finances. You know, like just that without input without input. Okay, so that's what you mean yeah, yeah, okay yeah. And I think a lot of us wanted that, or at least thought we wanted that.

Speaker 1

Yeah. So with the alpha thing, when you say alpha, it sounds like you just mean somebody who's? Either domineering or controlling.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Okay, that's what I thought. I mean, I wouldn't define it as that then, but that was a stereotype. It? It the domineering and the controlling part comes with when you actually meet somebody like that and what does that relationship look like? Not the stereotype of the caricature of the person? Yeah, and I think, like I wasn't the only one. Everybody wanted the alpha male, like we all thought we wanted the alpha male until we found out that the alpha male wasn't also emotionally aware they were controlling and domineering and there's an argument that he's not really confident you see exactly you see what happens with the because I don't.

Speaker 1

I don't subscribe. We're going off on a tangent, but I think this is worth it. I don't subscribe to the alpha male thing because I'm really good at seeing through men. Like I'm really good at seeing through men, and you see how the alpha male, the alpha male dudes out when they around me. What happens they cower every single time, every single time I don't.

Speaker 1

It's the craziest thing to see I'm never gonna be little bro around them ever. And what they consider themselves, I consider myself, but they I don't use the term alpha because that doesn't make sense it doesn't but there's a difference between confidence and bravado and there's a difference between wanting to have control versus wanting to have. Um, there's a difference between wanting to have control versus wanting to have. There's a difference between control and leadership. You know, I've always thought that you can't say I wanted an alpha man on a podcast.

Speaker 1

Got your husband like cold out here.

Speaker 2

I mean it would have been a really good clickbait situation, because they would have came here with all their assumptions and then they would have looked at it and they're like oh, never, mind. But no, it was the facade of knowing what to do you know, I mean, and knowing who you are, and I think that, like, that's what I saw and that's what I thought it was. But you're right, ended up being men that aren't confident, men that can't, you know, deal with a woman who's confident you know, a woman who makes smart decisions, or sometimes better decisions than the man you know.

Speaker 2

So it's like it turned into a thing and that was definitely the kind of guy that I was attracted to until I met you. And I always tell you, you're the first guy that, like shell wise, you were very similar to them, like attractive, tall, confident. You know what I mean. You exude a certain amount of confidence and the way that other men react to you was something that was familiar to me. But then seeing how emotional you are, like I do think you're sensitive, but not sensitive in a bad way, you know. I do think that you're super emotionally aware.

Speaker 2

Like I don't know, it was kind of like a mindf**k when I met you, because it didn't make sense. I wear Like I don't know, it was kind of like a mind when I met you, cause it didn't make sense. I never met anybody like you. So what I would say is what I know now, like better is that, that facade, that that was a facade. Like you can't just judge, especially when you're dating or when you're attracted to somebody. You can't just kind of judge it on what you see, but like how does their mind work? Like, how do they? How do they accept criticism? How do they accept criticism? How do they accept advice? Those are just qualities that you'll never know until you meet somebody in some type of conflict Shout out to benevolent patriarchy.

Speaker 2

Shout out to benevolent patriarchy.

Speaker 1

You can't eliminate what you're addicted to.

Speaker 2

Okay, next question what's one way we've surprised each other over time? This is a good question. What's one way we've surprised each other over time? This is a good question.

Speaker 1

I think you surprise me a lot of ways. I think your ability and I mentioned this on a sit down talk all the time, just the level of accountability that you operate with, that why is it surprising? You weren't always like that. Why is it surprising? You weren't always like that, you weren't always like that, and just the level of, just like your understanding of all the different emotional components in our relationship that exist outside of you.

Speaker 1

You're very, you're very understanding of those things, to the point where you're predictive. So you're like you know. Before I do this, I think this might affect you this way.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

You know, and then you tap in. You don't just try to. We used to get into arguments when I used to tell her all the time, like stop, stop trying to um narrate the way that I feel, or stop trying to predict the way that I'm going to feel. Just ask me. But now it's less. The way you predict is by asking I think this is going to be this way. What do you feel about that? And that's so much better than you doing a shot in the dark. Well, this is the way you're going to feel anyway, and being wrong and then, being unable to be moved from the fact that you're wrong.

Speaker 2

That's the word.

Speaker 1

Man, listen, that describes a lot of people's relationships like damn you wrong, and then you stay, and then you standing on business yeah, that's good to hear though that's good to hear.

Speaker 2

That's some that's some like positive reinforcement there that I appreciate. I take that and thank you. That makes me feel good. I didn't know that I was. I tried to do that but I didn't know how it was actually nice landing.

Speaker 1

Okay, I like that. I like that. That makes all the difference in the world I'm trying to think what's something that's?

Speaker 2

I mean, I feel like everything surprises me about you at this point. You're a totally different person professionally, that's what I would say. I feel like I really knew you well emotionally. We had a lot of time to really build that emotional connection, but I'm very surprised where you are professionally.

Speaker 1

Me too, Like what yeah me too.

Speaker 2

And I knew you always had it in you.

Speaker 1

I did.

Speaker 2

Here is like a for the. I knew you always had it in you. I did. But Kier is like a for the. I knew you always had it in you. Kier is a light. That's just what it is. He's a light Everybody sees it If you ever knew him before like the spotlight and I have to clarify, because which spotlight? Right Like. Is it the rapper Kier? Is it the you know property management care that everybody loved? Is it the you know educator care? Like he shines wherever he goes. He's just the annoying popular guy. He's going to be popular no matter where you go.

Speaker 1

Popular guy who don't even want the popularity You're never going to be more popular than Kier.

Speaker 2

Let's just call it what it is. I've never met somebody who doesn't love him. Even his exes love him. It's weird. It's weird your past situationships that the girls that you dog still love you. I didn't dog nobody.

Speaker 2

I ain't dog nobody they'll probably tell a different story. He's just always been like I'm a man for the people, like I just do what feels good, like I don't care if I don't make a lot of money, and blah, blah, blah. So like he was always that guy that had so much potential to me to be like bigger, but he never aspired to be there. And when things blew up, I was a little worried because I'm like okay, this is how we pay all of our bills. Like I left my job, like you know. Like when things don't feel right, you'd be like I don't even want to do this, no more.

Speaker 2

It's like, but wait we have bills, and the professional part of it was really difficult and I felt like the difference between Kira and I is like I'm the ambitious, like go-getter, like I'm gonna have the business plan, and Kira would just walk into a situation. It just works out and I feel like he's had to. I mean, he still has that quality about him but he's learned to be more strategic and learn to like be more business-minded. And I'm surprised at how quickly, like you were on board, because it was very it was something that you like not just wasn't used to, but, like you, your mind doesn't work in that way, you know.

Speaker 2

So, the fact that you've able to, you've been able to kind of scale the business in a way where it's still, you know, authentic but it's also still a business, and you you've done a really, really good job, especially this year. You know, accepting the ups and downs of entrepreneurship, how to pivot, how to move. You know, like, when to prioritize things, you know when you can't let emotions get in the way of business. Like, you've just done a really, really good job. And I'm just surprised because you know, know that wasn't, that wasn't your skill set at the time.

Speaker 2

No, I didn't think I could do it, to be honest, but you did it did it, still doing it, you still doing it, and I'm falling back like you really hand up handling most of most of it on your own it's a lot, man.

Speaker 1

It's definitely a 12 person operation being run by one.

Speaker 2

It's not you know, do not recommend yeah do not recommend thank you I appreciate.

Speaker 1

I, I, uh. What did they say? I embraced that, I received, I received that okay.

Speaker 2

Next question um, I like this one. If we were to meet today for the first time, what's something that would still attract you, like you saw me as me uh, definitely genuineness.

Speaker 1

That's the first thing that attracted me to you Really?

Speaker 2

You think I'm still genuine?

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember when I first met you, I thought you were fake. Yeah, I was like why are you being like that? You fake? I've never met anybody who was genuinely nice that way.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Whatever you see with Noemi, that me, that's really how she is she's not putting on for the camera I love it when people call me fake.

Speaker 2

Be like oh no, I mean so fake.

Speaker 1

She's really not that nice I am, yeah, and what's crazy is people assume that I'm nicer than I am because of me. Yeah, no, it's always been that way. People think I'm nice like no, that's my wife, she's really nice. I'm not. I'm not as nice as you think I am. Yeah, um, you got me mistaken, sir, but um, yeah, that and um, you got great conversation. I think that when I got you yeah.

Speaker 1

I mean, you got to have a good conversation for us to have spend all this time together. The only time we really spend away from each other is when one of us goes and picks up the kids yeah so we're always together 24 7 365, and that's not something I desire to do with anybody. So for me to still have words for you and still genuinely care about what you have to say and how you think that means the conversation is very interesting you're a great person to talk to.

Speaker 2

Thank you, I think that's why he's such a good conversation she really is.

Speaker 2

She's a great when I'm in the mood to hear her man, that girl chatty, patty for real, she can talk yo head off, but it's just so cool, like to be a seven. What was the question or something that would still attract me to you? I mean track you to me attractive, whatever, something that I'll still find attractive about you. I was thinking physical at first, but but I mean physically, you're still attracted. Physically you still look very similar to how you looked when I met you. Yeah, you look pretty similar. So it's not the physical.

Speaker 2

If I were to meet you right now I would say I would say like you're still very charming. The charm is confidence. A lot of times with men, like men that I've like dated in the past or whatever it's like, they have kind of going back to the facade of like the alpha, like just the facade of confidence. Like you're just so confident and it has nothing to do with what people tell you, like you can get a million comments on social media, so you're the best husband in the world and you're this and you're that, like that doesn't matter. I don't know many people.

Speaker 1

I appreciate it, but it doesn't. It doesn't move me.

Speaker 2

I don't know many people where it doesn't move me.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I don't know either. It doesn't move me.

Speaker 2

When people are like, oh my God, you're such a good mom, like for real, like really, because you're so authentically you, and it's like it's not even just an attractive thing, but it like helps build my confidence.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yes, you're like the biggest confidence boost. Somebody once said it was Monique, our stylist. She was just like it's something about the way she was talking to somebody else. She was like it's something about the way Noemi's face lights up whenever Kira walks into a room and it's like ever since she said that, like I literally feel my spirits lift, like when you give me a compliment or something, and it's just like you're so in tune with yourself and with me, like I don't think that you do this with other people, but like with us. Like you have this way of showing me like I'm the only person that matters and like that's people act, person that matters and like that's people act like that, but like you really do it, like you really feel that way and I don't know, it's just something about. You're just so charming to me, like you could look at me in a certain way and I'll forget what I'm saying, like I'll lose my words. It's just like why is he looking at me like that, like what you trying to do?

Speaker 1

what you trying to get into listen.

Speaker 2

We can wrap this up right now, but like you still make me feel that way and we've been together for 11 years, that's kind of crazy because I don't listen, care. I don't know what I look like on the internet, but I was out here too. You know what I mean. I was like big chick went in the whatever in the place. I don't know that was bagging men too, and it's just like he just. You know, I'm just really attracted to you. I really enjoy being around you. You make me feel like I'm the only person that matters. You really do. What's that Bruno Mars song? Just the Way you Are.

Speaker 1

Like when I'm around you, that's how it makes me feel that's fire. Yeah, I don't know if I see that every day, but it's good to have that in the back of the skull knowing that it exists out there, the way that I'd be cutting people off light like right and left.

Speaker 2

I I really do feel that way about you still, yeah I'm, you know, everybody get on my nerves, but not you, for some reason it ain't nothing, cut that okay, we have. We're not gonna get through all of this. Okay, fire, rap come on what is it? Rapid fire, rapid fire, yeah, okay we are still in um then versus now. This is the last question okay what's?

Speaker 2

something that would totally annoy you if you weren't already together. Well, we already talked about the chewing. What's? Something that would annoy me if we weren't already together something that I do that annoy, that would annoy you like completely if we weren't already together, like things that you're like that's just who she is, like it is what it is, and but.

Speaker 1

But in the beginning you're like, please stop now um, probably the level of planning like the type a-ness it doesn't annoy you anymore uh, I don't, I don't see it no more, it's such a part of who you are. I don't. I can't see it anymore.

Speaker 2

Yeah, no, that's real, that's real, that's it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's it.

In My Feelings: Emotional Support

Speaker 2

Um, okay, kind of on the same lines. The lack of planning. I don't care anymore. Like before, I'd be like what do you mean? You didn't do this? It's in two weeks what's happening. It's never gonna get done. You don't love me family. I'm not important to you anymore. Now I'm just like here's gonna figure it out, yeah, and if he doesn't, I'm just gonna do what I want it's it's going to be okay it'll be, and it's always fine it's always fine, always fine.

Speaker 2

That's what happens when the type a planner marries the man who flies by the seat of his pants and everything works out yeah you see, I was about to go on a tangent, but it's okay we're done with the category moving on. We got, we got two more. We got two more, two more, two more, two more. All right, all right. Okay, so this one is a little bit deep, all right, no tangents.

Speaker 1

No tangents, me too, mm-hmm, all right.

Speaker 2

You ain't got to do all that.

Speaker 1

I'm just saying.

Speaker 2

Just for clarification.

Speaker 1

So this category is in my feelings. Come you. You realize that it's. I'm having a tough time and you just come, and you just give me a hug yeah yeah, and it's, it's just about me in that moment.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, that's when I feel the most support yeah, um, I feel the most supported when you let me vent, when you just let me. I have nobody to vent to without somebody telling me that what I'm venting about it's not that big of a deal. Yeah, I hate when people do that. Everybody tells me that that blows me.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that blows me or people be like calm down, I'm calm, like I just I'm just venting. Um, I love that about you. Okay, number two, what's something that I do that still gives you butterflies? Even if you don't say it, you don't get butterflies, I know no, I don't think I get butterflies, what's like something that you're like, damn like.

Speaker 1

That's my boo certain ways that you look like if we're going out and you got an outfit that you feel really confident in.

Speaker 2

That makes you feel good.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it makes me feel good to know that you feel good.

Speaker 2

No, or something you do for me, yeah, or something that I do that makes you feel good, Like that's about you. Okay, I'll answer the question. Okay, go ahead. I can't see how to sit down and talk, use I can't see how to sit down and talk, use appropriate language, but I don't, I can't. Oh okay, oh okay, like how we be starting.

Speaker 1

Chill, son, that don't mean nothing. That means everything. What you think that's so slick that nobody knows what that means.

Speaker 2

It could be different things. People start in different ways babe.

Speaker 1

No, that's obvious.

Speaker 2

Like but is that it? Yeah, okay putting all our business. We married where the kids came from. Okay, something that you do that still gives me butterflies. Um, kind of what you said when um, you just look at me when I know I look good and you look at me and you just you did. You did it in the last sit down talk. It's just the way that you look at me sometimes, when you just like real into me I can't tell when I'm doing it because it's not on purpose, it's just like I can see it in your eyes no.

Speaker 2

No you see, when you try to do it, you just look weird. Now. But, no, it's like when, when you really feeling me, it's like, oh, ok, you know, oh, and I said you look edible. I love it when you do that, because for real still OK. Well, let me give you something to eat.

Speaker 1

OK, put it on the plate.

Speaker 2

OK, number three OK. What's one way that I've helped you grow emotionally?

Speaker 1

um, by modeling resilience, you you don't let things get you down too much. Um, you're really good at, when things happen, letting the feeling exist, but also trying to find a way to pivot and still get something out of the situation. I learned a lot of that from you, yeah yeah, and also speaking up for myself for what I want yeah, I love that. Wow really yeah I didn't grow up in an environment where it was okay to speak up for what you want.

Speaker 2

You just kind of get what you get and be grateful yeah, um, one thing, that's one thing about you that's helped me grow emotionally. It's like I feel like I'm a I'm a performative person for the most part, like I feel like I've been taught how to speak to people, how to make people feel, you know, like my responses and my like place in life is based on, based off of other people. Like if I make this person feel important, they'll give me a job. If I'm, you know, really nice to this person and show up for this person, they'll be my friend. Like it's just a very performative way to live, and you are absolutely not that to the point where I thought you were weird for not being that way, and seeing you just be yourself is teaching me how to be myself.

Speaker 2

Oh, wow and it's like it's also teaching me that I don't know about myself, like the way that I see myself isn't always how I come across.

Speaker 1

Rarely. Is it the way you come across?

Speaker 2

Yeah, and it's just like being more curious about who I am and how I come across. That's never really been something that I was concerned about outside of the performance piece. It's just like getting to know you is helping me get to know myself. Oh wow, is that deep? That's very deep, but it's. It's just like. Like getting to know you is helping me get to know myself oh wow, is that deep?

Speaker 2

That's very deep, but it's true. It's true. Okay, the last one in this category almost done. The last one in this category is what's your love language and has it changed? It always changes.

Speaker 1

Yeah, what's your?

Speaker 2

love language right now.

Speaker 1

What was my love language when we first met? I don't believe anyone has one love language. I just think we have. It was absolutely physical touch and that's it. It was definitely not words of affirmation. I think it's words of, I think it's more words. It's still physical touch. Yeah, I'm a little touched out because of the kids now but it's, it's physical, it's still physical touch, but I think the words of affirmation takes up more space now yeah. Because I get words of affirmation from the world all the time.

Speaker 1

There's hundreds of comments. You're the best, you're great, you're a great husband, great father, great, this, great that, and I appreciate it all. But when it comes from someone who knows you and loves you, it hits differently. And it sticks to you in a different way. So I think, words of affirmation, I need that more from the people who know me intimately.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think mine has changed too. I think mine was always like acts of service and I think it was words of affirmation too from you. It wasn't, it wasn't physical touch. But now it's completely changed. It's a lot more physical touch. Like physical touch has focused on me. You know what I mean. Like that, and gifts Gifts is starting to become bigger for me too, to the point where I don't even know like what I want. It's such a new like love language that I don't even know how to be here. I just know that I like it yeah like I don't know how to ask.

Speaker 2

I don't know what I want because I've never been asked what I want, but I do want something belief sent me like 50 for my birthday and it meant the world to me. I was like dog, somebody gave me money, yeah that I didn't have to work for.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's just such a rare thing. Give me gift cards, yeah.

Speaker 2

Give me gift cards for food and Sephora. Look at us getting through these things yes we got one last category.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 2

Okay, you really know me, you know blank.

Speaker 1

all right, okay, rapid fire, rapid fire, if you really knew me, you know I need blank to feel okay.

Speaker 2

Space yeah, I was gonna say the same for you. Yeah, you need, like space outside of us. You need, you need to be outside to be okay. Greed number two if you really knew me, you know I struggle with blank in relationships, not transparency Like vulnerability. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1

You struggle with vulnerability.

Speaker 2

Yeah, For you I would say you struggle with letting people know you need them in relationships.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

Because you need people.

Speaker 1

but it's weird to say I mean, I think it's weird for everybody. I don't always know how to show it, so I got to be really strategic and really, what's the I word Everyone overuses all the time?

Speaker 2

Intentional, oh God, I'm so sick of that word, such an overused word. You don't even know what that means.

Speaker 1

I got to be really intentional about letting people know that I need them now.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's been working for me has. I'm proud of you. I see it okay. Number three, if you really knew me, you know I'm working on blank you're really working on your sense of self-identity yeah that's so true.

Speaker 1

That's something you're working on yeah for you.

Speaker 2

I don't know if you would say this word, but you're working on harmony, I think, for so long you're trying to balance things, you're trying to find trying to find a harmonious yep like pitch here with the life thing yep results may vary but you that the work. You're never going to reach it. It's a constant thing, but it's a lot better to reach. I think that's the frustrating part for me.

Speaker 1

I think in my mind I want to reach it, but it's not a goal to reach it's just a, a pitch to strike, yep, yep yep, last one all right if you really knew me.

Speaker 2

You know I dream of blank for us. What do you think I?

Speaker 1

used to be more kids. Um, it's not that anymore. Praise God. It's somewhere between health, happiness and success. If it's not, I mean I'm scared to be wrong. It's actually not that. What is it? I don't know if I know the answer for you, Because I don't know the answer for you.

Speaker 2

So, I'll answer it for myself. I dream for a level of peace for us, for a level of peace for us.

Speaker 2

I think that I think we could be successful. But I think we might reach a level where we're like you know what we're good, we don't want to move forward, but I think right now we're in this place like we're trying to figure out how far do we go and how hard do we. You know how fast do we run to get there. And this is the first time in our life where I feel like I don't really know where it's going to go. But I hope that we're at peace with whatever decision that we make.

Speaker 2

And I always tell people like here's going to be Oprah, I be saying it, but like I really do see it. I don't know if I want to be Oprah, but that's what I'm saying. I don't know Just because I see it or just because, like there's a path, you, there's a path, you know. Like I would say, like here's gonna be on a talk show, like I don't know if that's something that we want to do, but I do dream that wherever we end up, it's just like it works, because our family will always be a priority, our relationship will always be a priority, and like I just don't know what it looks like, where that harmony is achieved, like where on that level of success we'll be at, and I don't care where it is, as long as you're, you and I and the kids are okay yeah, I, I think I think my answer is somewhere in between.

Speaker 1

I didn't think peace until you said it. So, between being peace, between peace, health, good health, um.

Finding Peace and Contentment Together

Speaker 1

I like the idea of harmony, um, but I think I'm gonna replace harmony with just being content yeah, because you have all happiness ain't listen, man, happiness not always available to you, yeah, like happiness isn't a thing that you, just you can always manufacture, that you can always see, that you can always understand or embrace in real time. But I'm fine if I'm not happy, I'm fine being content, I'm fine being satisfied with the things that I have in the place I agree.

Speaker 2

I never say my goal is to be happy anymore, because happy you can't. Life isn't about happiness it's such a moving target yo, and, but it's about like being content where you at like where you at. If you're in a low point, knowing that you it's only going to be there for a while. And if you're a low point, knowing that it's only going to be there for a while. And if you're in a happy time, knowing that you're only going to be on this high for a certain amount of time before it dips again.

Speaker 2

And how are you going to make sure you're okay?

Speaker 1

And.

Speaker 2

I feel like we're saying the same thing. You know for the most part.

Speaker 1

I never thought about that question like what I want for my family overall. Where do I see us?

Speaker 2

I thinking about it yeah because of everything that's been happening. How fast everything's been happening.

Speaker 1

I'm so stuck in the present and just trying to survive the present and making sure I'm prepared for the present. I don't think I think that far into the future and also our present changes so fast?

Speaker 2

it's impossible to predict what the future is going to look like this part is the juggling act, because, while you want to stay in the present, what are you doing this for? You know what I mean? Yeah, what is it all? Stay in the present. What are you doing this for? You know what?

Speaker 1

I mean, yeah, what is it all coming?

Speaker 2

yeah, what what is this for? Is this for if we want to show there's a certain way to move, if we want to show we're only going to do social media for so long? What's the next trajectory?

Speaker 1

from.

Speaker 2

There because it's always changing, it's always on my mind. So, because it's always changing and because it's on my mind, I'm like okay, I know that I will feel good when I feel like we're at peace when I feel like we're good with the amount of money that we have going in. We feel good about what this is gonna look like. We're not in the middle of writing a book, planning a show, doing the things like that's the thing I think we're always going to be in the middle of doing something.

Speaker 2

I need to find peace with that yeah you know, you know and I also need to know what it looks like, because we got kids. It can't be like a we're going to be in Chicago for this year and then New York for this year.

Speaker 1

Nah, we need stability.

Speaker 2

But even if it is, if I'm at peace with that, if we've decided that that's just what we're going to do, I'm cool. But I think it's just because now I'm going on a tangent, but I'm going to land it. I'm going to land it. We might not live here. You might get an opportunity where we have to pick up and move. So it's like okay, well, maybe right now isn't the time to think about a forever home. You know, maybe it's like okay, maybe we're going to have those kids that get to live everywhere and experience life. And you know, like nothing is bad, it's just something that I've never even imagined of grass, yeah, or like just even in vision. So it's like that's what I meant.

Speaker 1

yeah, but it's nothing that I'm not down for, but it's like I really don't know what I don't know and the things that I don't know can the. The amount of space that they take up is infinite.

Speaker 2

There's so much yeah you know, it's just that's why I desire peace. I don't need to know everything, I don't need to be happy with every decision. I just want to, you know, be content.

Speaker 1

I think that's good I always say as long as we got our health, everything else will figure itself out yeah, the health is the one thing you can't. When your health is not good, it's not, it's it's all bad yeah don't matter how much money you make, no matter what your success trajectory is, no matter how great your relationship is, if your health is not good man, it throws everything off balance awesome, guess what we done we're only 15 minutes over, how you know, because I you heard us.

Speaker 2

You said something about wanting to end it at 11 15 and it's 11 30, it's actually 14 minutes so, um, this was dope man.

Speaker 1

This was a lot of fun. I had my concentration face on today because I was really trying to think about what my answers were.

Speaker 2

Your forehead was four-headed.

Speaker 1

Forehead was all wrinkly, but for you and your relationship, or your friendship or your parenthood child relationship. I think this would be a really good idea to ask some of these questions, Because it's one thing to have a conversation with somebody and get an idea of what their interpretation of you is or what your interpretation of them is, but when you play a game, you start finding out stuff that you just you would normally come across and just average. You know back and forth convo. So what did you discover when we had these conversations? What did you think about? What popped up in your brain? Did you sprout an aha moment? Self-discovery, anything? Make sure you put that in the comments down below. I thank y'all for rocking with us. Super thank you to the repeat offenders, who have always been here and continue to show up seven years strong man that is insane.

Speaker 2

This is supposed to be the rocky part of our relationship. You still feeling us. I think we're doing all right. I think we're in a good place. I'm going to let the people tell us, you tell us. You tell us where we at Tell us in the comments down below.

Speaker 1

But until next time, y'all be good, y'all be safe, y'all be careful. Peace, thank you you.